[12:41 PM] <paul_irish> Swimming_Bird: since WE are recommending you use a plugin. and you don't want to.. i wouldnt expect us to help facilitate your foray into handcoding some rough equivalent of a cycle plugin. if you can't do it on your own, you shouldn't be. seriously.
[12:41 PM] <ben_alman> plugins can be good, and plugins can be bad.. but you'll never know until you use one
[12:41 PM] <ben_alman> it's like dating
[12:41 PM] <ajpiano> yeah exactly, that's the whole thing
[12:42 PM] <ben_alman> lots of bad plugins out there
[12:42 PM] <ben_alman> but a few gems
[12:42 PM] <ben_alman> but you don't have to buy them dinner
[12:42 PM] <ajpiano> if you don't want to use a plugin but you can't code it yourself, why not look at the plugin's code at least
[12:42 PM] <ajpiano> most of the time people end up with much more bloated code to achieve the same functionality
[12:43 PM] <ajpiano> the amount of space it takes a good plugin author to make it support options etc, and behave safely, is the same amount of kb a less skilled coder needs just to make a static, inflexible implementation